The Place of the Dead
Part 1 and part 2 down further
Think about common sense:
There is nothing wrong with you saying, you are
born, you live your life and then you are gone. A lot of people think
that and you might as well.
Religious people, churches, ministers, denominations, vicars, fathers, pastors, elders, layman, bible readers think that there is something else about life. You are born, you live and you die, but something happens when you die. You are not gone, gone.
Unfortunately religious people have their own interpretation what happens when you die and they all go to the same Bible I read and of course some religious groups have their own sacred texts.
What we are left with a heap of doctrines about the dead that are fanciful.
Let me see if I can put what I think is a common sense approach to the place of the dead.
Because of ignorance you go back in history and you see pharaohs and others having their tombs and when they die they have their gold buried with them, food, supplied, even servants in their tombs. So the thinking is that they would be in another place and things will go with them.
We look back in history and we know they were doing things without knowledge because all that happened is robbers came and took whatever they found in the tombs. In other words when the pharaohs died their body and goods were still in the tomb. They and it when nowhere..
Today were are a more enlightened era so we think we have hold of what life is about. However in the area of what happens when we die most of the worlds citizens have decided to ignore that part of their life journey. People around me in Deepwater Glen Innes definitely say things like, I do not even think about that part of my life.
You certainly can make that decision and then one day you have to go because you have no choice when you die, you might extend your life but in the end you go to the place of the dead.
A good way to look at this situation you can ignore your death. You can never imagine you will be gone. But you will.
Gods adversary has organised this world so that you are completely absorbed in life and things around you so that you never think that maybe you should hunt out the knowledge of what happens when you die.
The last Video about the kingdom of god and Jesus himself shows you there is a world that exists, but most people do not see it and they do not see it because of ignorance or deliberate ignorance and they are lacking the knowledge to make a decision or do not what to make a decision in that are.
Death has been a dark shadow over all of mankind, the world did not know what happens after death.
When Jesus Christ came the knowledge about death
came and we are told in the beginning of his ministry he was a light
giving life about the kingdom of God. Through Jesus Christ death has
been opened and we find we do not have to die at all. The God who
created the world sent his son into the world and now Jesus himself told
us what happens.
Those who came to Jesus have their sins forgiven so when they die and stand before God all the disobedience the wrong things were done do not exist because through Jesus he took away our sin so we stand before God standing with nothing to be afraid of and those go into the kingdom of God.
What happens when you die?
Let us use common sense here. Billions of billions of people live and die and those die their body decays and in the end are gone. Back to the ground. The bible says dust to dust.
The resurrection that many religious talk about common sense tells you no way is that in the end of time all those bodies are miraculously back into a body. Cremated bodies, bodies in the ocean, This idea of the bodies suddenly come together at the resurrection I think is fanciful.
But what I think does make sense is that when you die your spirit that is the real you leaves the body. And we see that all the time. When one of our family or friend dies we see their last moments and finally we say they are gone. The doctor comes, checks the pulse etc and then that person is gone.
Now here you can make a decision
In other words as I said in other videos if the
person who did the wrong thing and was responsible for hideous acts that
person escapes justice.
Jesus gave a hint when Jesus gave a parable about
the rich man in Hades.
When Stephen is stoned to death Stephen saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
The question of whether you know you are on the
other side I will leave it till the next video because once again I
think most of the religious denominations are talking rubbish about what
happens when you die.
The place of the Dead
Hi, this is Hendrik.
Where are you! Where are you! Where are you!
You have disappeared from the earth the same as billions of people have and every person alive today the 7 billion will be in the same place in about 100 years. So you can imagine if there was a place billions of billions of people are there.
Even though you cannot imagine it happening but you
will slip away and many people do talk about leaving the body. Some do
not have the same feeling.
This subject about you dying when you die is probably the most sure event that is going to happen to you. So it makes sense to think about your own death and whether when you die you are just like an animal you die you are gone, or is their more to think about.
To me common sense dictates that you should hunt
down the knowledge that is available People, Web, Churches,
Philosophers, Psychiatrists, Counsellors, Holy Books, Publications and
the list is enormously large.
In the teaching of the Buddha, all of us will pass away eventually as a part in the natural process of birth, old-age and death and that we should always keep in mind the impermanence of life. The life that we all cherish and wish to hold on.
To Buddhism, however, death is not the end of life, it is merely the end of the body we inhabit in this life, but our spirit will still remain and seek out through the need of attachment, attachment to a new body and new life. Where they will be born is a result of the past and the accumulation of positive and negative action, and the resultant karma (cause and effect) is a result of ones past actions.
This would lead to the person to be reborn in one of 6 realms which are; heaven, human beings, Asura, hungry ghost, animal and hell. Realms, according to the severity of ones karmic actions, Buddhists believe however, none of these places are permanent and one does not remain in any place indefinitely. So we can say that in Buddhism, life does not end, merely goes on in other forms that are the result of accumulated karma. Buddhism is a belief that emphasizes the impermanence of lives, including all those beyond the present life. With this in mind we should not fear death as it will lead to rebirth.
The fear of death stemmed from the fear of cease to be existent and losing ones identity and foothold in the world. We see our death coming long before its arrival, we notice impermanence in the changes we see around us and to us in the arrival of aging and the suffering due to losing our youth. Once we were strong and beautiful and as we age, as we approach our final moments of life we realize how fleeting such a comfortable place actually was.
Christianity - Views on Death
For Christians whose lives are guided by the Bible, the reality of death
is acknowledged as part of the current human condition, affected by sin
(Genesis 2:17; Romans 5; Hebrews 9:27). There is "a time to be born, and
a time to die" (Ecclesiastes 3:2). Although eternal life is a gift that
is granted to all who accept salvation through Jesus Christ, faithful
Christians await the second coming of Jesus for complete realization of
their immortality (John 3:36; Romans 6:23; 1 Corinthians 15:51-54).
While waiting for Jesus to come again, Christians may be called upon to
care for the dying and to face personally their own death.
When death approaches, the close family and friends try to support and comfort the dying person through supplication as well as remembrance of Allah and His will. The attendance is to help the dying person to iterate his commitment to unity of God.
Upon death, the eye lids are to be closed, the body should be covered,
and preparation for burial takes place as soon as possible. The whole
body is washed and wrapped in a shroud. Muslims gather and a prayer is
performed for the dead. The body is to buried soon after the prayer. The
wrapped body is to be
The family of the dead has a responsibility to fulfill any debts he had
as soon as possible. They have the commitment to maintain contacts and
courteous relationships with close relatives and close friends. They
frequently pray and
Hinduism-Views on Death
Hinduism believes in the rebirth and reincarnation of souls. Death is therefore not a great calamity, not an end of all, but a natural process in the existence of soul as a separate entity, by which it reassembles its resources, adjusts its course and returns again to the earth to continue its journey. In Hinduism death is a temporary cessation of physical activity, a necessary means of recycling the resources and energy and an opportunity for the soul to review its programs and policies. When a person dies, his soul along with some residual consciousness leaves the body through an opening in the head and goes to another world and returns again after spending some time there. What happens after the soul leaves the body and before it reincarnates again is a great mystery .
The Bhagavad gita describes two paths along which souls travel after death. One is the path of the sun, also known as the bright path and the other is the path of the moon, also known as the the dark path. When a soul travels along the path of the sun, it never return again, while those which travel along the path of the moon return again.
What happens to a soul after the death of a mortal being on earth depends upon many factors, some of which are, his previous deeds, his state of mind at the time of death,the time his death, the activities of his children, that is whether they performed the funeral rites in the prescribed manner and satisfied the scriptural injunctions.
Hinduism believes in the existence of not one hell and one heaven but in the existence of many sun filled worlds and many dark and demonic worlds. Vaikunth is the world of Vishnu, Kailash is the world of Siva and Brahmalok is the world of Brahman. Indralok is the standard heaven to which those who please the gods through their activities upon the earth go. The standard hell is Yamalok, which is also ruled by a god called Lord Yama, who is also the ruler of the southern quarter.In the ultimate sense, the purpose of these worlds is neither to punish or reward the souls, but to remind them of the true purpose of their existence.
After death, Hindus are not buried, but cremated. The idea is that the human personality is made up of five elements of which four belong to the body and come from this world, namely fire, earth, water and air while the fifth the ether (fine matter) belongs to the domain of the subtle body and comes from the higher worlds. By cremating the body, the elements are rightfully returned to their respective spheres, while the subtle body along with soul returns to the worlds beyond for the continuation of its afterlife.
A lot of rituals are associated with the cremation ceremony. When a person dies, the body is given a final bath, carried on a wooden stretcher by his kith and kin and cremated on the community cremation grounds generally by the eldest son. This is followed by some rituals in which the sons make offering of food to the departed soul under the supervision of a priest. Generally a function is organized on the fifteen day and guests are invited for a meal. Generally Hindus who have lost an important relation in their families do not celebrate functions and festivals for a specific period of time as a mark of respect. While cremation is the standard procedure, Hindus consider it very auspicious if a dead body is immersed in the Ganges or cremated on its banks since the river is considered very sacred.
Buddhism - Views on Death
From its inception, Buddhism has stressed the importance of death, since awareness of death is what prompted the Buddha to perceive the ultimate futility of worldly concerns and pleasures. Realizing that death is inevitable for a person who is caught up in worldly pleasures and attitudes, he resolved to renounce the world and devote himself to finding a solution to this most basic of existential dilemmas.
A Buddhist looks at death as a breaking apart of the material of which we are composed. However Buddhism does not look at death as a continuation of the soul but as an awakening. Dying and being reborn has been compared by some Buddhist as a candle flame. When the flame of one lit candle is touched to the wick of an unlighted candle, the light passes from one candle to another. The actual flame of the first candle does not pass over but is responsible for lighting the second candle.
When preparing for death Buddhist generally agree a persons state of mind while dying is of great importance. While dying the person can be surrounded by friends, family and monks who recite Buddhists scriptures and mantras to help the person achieve a peaceful state of mind. Buddhism asserts that all being live beyond the various fluctuations of this life. Death is merely a passage to rebirth in another realm such as the human world, a pure land or the flowering of the ultimate nature of the mind.
Zoroastrianism - Views on Death
The Parsees (Zoroastrians ) do not cremate, bury or submerge their dead in water because they consider the dead to be impure, and their Zoroastrian faith does not permit them to defile any of the elements with them. This desert ritual, which originated along with their faith in Persia more than 3,000 years ago and regards death not as the work of God but of the devil, dictates that that the dead be left to vultures on hilltops.
It is common for Parsees to travel long distances to bring their dead to the Mumbai towers (India) because prayers for the dead can only be said for those who have passed through its gates. Dead Parsees are carried on a bier to a ceremonial gate near the five Towers of Silence, where relatives hand them to pallbearers, the only people allowed inside. The black stone towers, about 36 metres high, are like three-tiered, open-air arenas where the men are placed in the outer circle, women in the middle and children in the innermost for the vultures to feed on. But with an average of three Parsees dying every day, the handful of vultures at the towers are overfed.
Experts say about 100-120 birds would be needed to deal with the daily intake of bodies. The Zoroastrians, or Parsees, have installed solar reflectors in their Towers of Silence in Mumbai to help dispose of their dead after a decline in the number of vultures that scavenge their corpses in keeping with tradition.
Judaism - Views on Death
Judaism has stressed the natural fact of death and its role in giving life meaning. The fear of death, concern about the fate of our own soul and those of our loved ones, ethical concerns that some people die unfairly, all these and many other issues are discussed in Jewish literature. Since God is seen as ultimately just, the seeming injustice on Earth has propelled many traditional Jewish thinkers into seeing the afterlife as a way to reflect the ultimate justice of human existence.
Traditional thinkers considered how individuals would be rewarded or punished after their deaths. There are a few rare descriptions of life after death. Traditionalists gave the name Gehenna to the place where souls were punished. Many Jewish thinkers noted that since, essentially, God is filled with mercy and love, punishment is not to be considered to be eternal. There are, similarly, many varying conceptions of paradise, such as that paradise is the place where we finally understand the true concept of God. It is also possible that there is no separate Heaven and Hell, only lesser or greater distance from God after death.
Judaism does not believe people who are Gentiles will automatically go
to Hell or that Jews will automatically go to Heaven on their basis of
their belonging to the faith. Rather, individual ethical behavior is
what is most important.